Episode 63: And after the fire…

David and Perry discuss -- and disagree about -- "The Bass Rock" and "Notes from the Burning Age" as well as two of the novels nominated for this year's Hugo Award. Saint Wiborada (01:21) Nobel Prize for Literature (07:32) The Bass Rock by Evie Wyld (14:13) Notes from the Burning Age by Claire North (11:18) Hugo Nominated Novels (26:14) Black Sun by Rebecca Roanhorse (13:00) The City We Became by N. K. Jemisin (12:27) Windup (01:30) Photo by Stephen Cavenagh, ABC News