Two Chairs Talking

Two ex-chairmen of the World SF Convention talk about books, movies, science fiction fandom, and much else.

Perry and David discuss the upcoming Hugo Awards, and David discusses with Rob Gerrand their mutual love of the work of Jack Vance.

  • Hugo Award nominees 2020 (34:18)

    • Fiction categories (01:24)
    • Novel category (00:28)
    • The Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley (03:33)
    • The City in the Middle of the Night by Charlie Jane Anders (04:26)
    • Middlegame by Seanan McGuire (03:11)
    • Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir (03:43)
    • The Ten Thousand Doors of January by Alix E. Harrow (00:45)
    • A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine (00:48)
    • Hugo Voting Package (00:31)
    • The Deep by Rivers Solomon (01:01)
    • To Be Taught, If Fortunate by Becky Chambers (01:23)
    • Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom by Ted Chiang (01:23)
    • The Haunting of Tram Car 015 by P. Djèlí Clark (01:09)
    • In an Absent Dream by Seanan McGuire (01:10)
    • This Is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone (03:17)
  • David's Reading (08:23)
    • The Mirror and the Light by Hilary Mantel (04:04)
    • Tom's Midnight Garden by Philipa Pearce (04:03)
  • Interview with Rob Gerrand (35:02)
    • About Jack Vance (01:37)
    • Rob's introduction to Vance (00:27)
    • Tschai tetralogy (00:37)
    • Demon Princes novels (04:30)
    • David's introduction to Vance (00:29)
    • The Dragon Masters (01:31)
    • Demon Princes series (02:37)
    • Bad Ronald (00:16)
    • The View from Chickweed's Window (02:08)
    • Big Planet (01:05)
    • Emphyrio (00:23)
    • The Blue World (00:45)
    • Lyonnesse (04:14)
    • Vance Integral Edition (05:38)
    • Ebooks based on the VIE (01:53)
    • The Languages of Pao (01:44)
    • Lyonnesse (01:21)
    • Vance's Crime Novels (01:46)
    • SF Writers and crime writing (00:16)
    • Frederick Brown (00:19)
    • Madball~Frederick Brown (00:15)
    • Night of the Jabberwock~Frederick Brown (00:03)
    • The Screaming Mimi~Frederick Brown (00:16)
    • The Fabulous Clipjoint~Frederick Brown (00:13)
  • Windup (02:41)

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Image based on the illustrations by Jack Gaughan to “The Dragon Masters” by Jack Vance, Galaxy August 1962.

 

David and Perry talk about science fiction on television, picking out a few favourites among a vast array of available material:

  • The Expanse (Amazon Prime) (16:33)
  • The Outsider (HBO/Foxtel) (07:40)
  • For All Mankind (Apple TV+) (12:01)
  • Star Trek: Picard (Amazon Prime) (30:55)
    • Interview with Rose Mitchell and Andrew O'Rorke (26:37)
  • Tales from the Loop (Amazon Prime) (02:12)
  • Next episode (00:34)
  • Wind-up (00:29)

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Perry and David celebrate the first anniversary of this podcast by each talking about the best five books they've ever read.

  • Our podcast anniversary (01:18)
  • Tribute to Mervyn Binns (02:51)
  • Choosing our five favourite books (00:33)
  • Visited by the Suck Fairy (01:18)
  • The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin (12:47)
  • The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester (08:27)
  • How we chose these books (02:00)
  • The Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell (07:22)
  • His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman (08:19)
  • The Tango Briefing by Adam Hall (09:20)
  • The Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnett (09:06)
  • Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond(07:13)
  • The Path Between the Seas by David McCullough (06:38)
  • The French Lieutenant's Woman by John Fowles (09:29)
  • Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke (08:46)
  • Honourable mentions (03:27)

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David and Perry, together with special guests W. H. Chong and Paul Carr, talk about how they first started to become SF/Fantasy readers, and in Paul's case, how he got into the space industry.

  • Coping with social distancing (01:38)
  • New Zealand World SF Con goes virtual (02:25)
  • Hugo Awards short list (02:07)
  • How we became SF/Fantasy readers (00:40)
  • Perry's introduction to the field (05:27)
    • Secret Seven & Famous Five by Enid Blyton (00:35)
    • Doctor Doolittle by Hugh Lofting (00:24)
    • Astounding/Analog magazine (03:44)
  • David's introduction to the field (08:06)
    • The Magic Faraway Tree by Enid Blyton (01:04)
    • The Story of the Amulet by Edith Nesbit (02:18)
    • Cities in Flight by James Blish (00:55)
    • Kings of Space by W. E. Johns (00:44)
    • Edgar Rice Burroughs (00:39)
    • The City and the Stars by Arthur C. Clarke (00:20)
    • Isaac Asimov (00:58)
  • Dying Inside by Robert Silverberg (01:01)
  • Our next episode (01:58)
  • Interview with W. H. Chong (50:50)
  • Interview with Paul Carr (24:13)

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In a special Crime episode Perry and David, with special guest Dr. Lucy Sussex, discuss:

  • Social distancing

    • Clarification
  • Follow-up - Nebula Awards Voting
  • Gone By Midnight by Candice Fox
  • Hades, Eden, Fall by Candice Fox
  • The Broken Shore by Peter Temple
  • November Road by Lou Berney
  • Peace by Garry Disher
  • Books we're looking forward to
    • The Mirror and the Light by Hilary Mantel
    • Hugo nominated novellas and novels
    • A Coffin for Dimitrios by Eric Ambler
  • Our plans

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David and Perry discuss:

  • The Coronavirus Epidemic
  • How we rate books
  • Touch~Claire North
  • Hugo Awards for 2020
  • A Memory Called Empire~Arkady Martine
  • Infinite Detail~Tim Maughan
  • The Wicked Girls~Alex Marwood
  • The Mermaids Singing~Val McDermid
  • The Ten Thousand Doors of January~Alix E. Harrow
  • Daemon Voices~Philip Pullman
  • Clockwork~Philip Pullman
  • I Was a Rat~Philip Pullman
  • Blue Moon~Lee Child
  • Interview with Lucy Sussex
    • The Arsonist~Cloe Hooper
    • Kinglake-350~Adrian Hyland
    • The Wasp and the Orchid~Danielle Clode
    • Viv Albertine
    • Patrick Parker's Progress~Mavis Cheek
    • Farthing, Ha'Penny, Half a Crown~Jo Walton
    • Swastika Night~Katharine Burdekin
    • Generation Loss~Elizabeth Hand
    • Peace~Gary Disher
  • Interview with W. H. Chong
    • Black Leopard, Red Wolf~Marlon James
    • Red Moon~Kim Stanley Robinson
    • Lanny~Max Porter
    • Grief is a Thing With Feathers~Max Porter
    • Best SF of the Year~Strahan
    • Blackfish City~Sam J. Miller
    • The Wandering Earth collection~Liu Cixin
    • On the Beach~Neville Shute
    • How to Write an Autobiographical Novel~Alexander Chee
    • In the Garden of Beasts~Eric Larsen
    • Agency~William Gibson
    • The Rain Heron~Robbie Arnott
  • Windup

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In this special episode, Perry and David speak to Rob Gerrand, Bruce Gillespie and Carey

  • Norstrilia Press Interview

    • How Norstrilia Press got started
    • Coming up with the name
    • Philip K. Dick - Electric Shepherd
    • Stanislaw Lem article sets off controversy
    • The Altered I (workshop book)
    • Rob Gerrand's involvement
    • The View From the Edge
    • Moon in the Ground by Keith Antill
    • Other SF publishers in Australia
    • Typesetting
    • Sales and Distribution
    • Roles of Carey, Bruce and Rob
    • Dancing Dragons by Damien Broderick
    • Transmutations
    • Stellar Gauge - Dreaming Dragons - Roger Zelazny poems
    • Academic studies of SF in the U.S.
    • Dreaming Dragons
    • Lavington Pugh by Jay Bland
    • Getting Reviews
    • The Plains by Gerald Murnane
    • Dreamworks anthology
    • An Unusual Angle by Greg Egan
    • In the Heart or in the Head by George Turner
    • Landscape with Landscape by Gerald Murnane
    • Funding problems
    • Down Deep scandal
    • Looking back on it
    • The role of Hyland House
  • Wind-up

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Image: the logo of Norstrilia Press against a starry background (composite created by David Grigg).

David and Perry discuss 1961, an amazingly good year for science fiction:

  • Hugo Time Machine (1961)
  • Novel nominees
    • Rogue Moon by Algis Budrys
    • The High Crusade by Poul Anderson
    • Venus Plus X by Theodore Sturgeon
    • Deathworld by Harry Harrison
    • A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jnr
    • Other books which might have been nominated
  • Short Fiction nominees
    • Need by Theodore Sturgeon
    • The Lost Kafoozalum by Pauline Ashwell
    • Open to Me, My Sister by Phillip Jose Farmer
    • The Longest Voyage by Poul Anderson
    • Other possible nominees
  • Windup

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Perry and David discuss:

  • Follow-ups
  • What we've been reading
    • Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe
    • The Lost City of Z by David Grand
    • Nova Mob - Ian Mond's recommendations
    • Infinite Detail by Tim Maughan
    • Ordinary People by Sally Rooney
    • Voices by Ursula Le Guin
    • The Blind Contessa's New Machine by Carey Wallace
    • Amsterdam by Ian McEwan
  • The Shelflife of Zora Cross - Interview with Lucy Sussex
  • Interstellar - the movie
  • What we have planned

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David and Perry discuss:

  • Best movies 2019 -- Perry

    • Avengers - Infinity War
    • Captain Marvel
    • All Is True
    • Knives Out
    • John Wick Chapter 3
  • Best Movies 2019 -- David
    • Mortal Engines
    • First Man
    • Re-watched movies
  • Best TV 2019 --Perry
    • Game of Thrones
    • For All Mankind
    • Mr Mercedes
  • Best TV -- David
    • For All Mankind
    • Morning Wars
    • Good Omens
    • The Boys
    • Goliath
  • Trying to keep up
  • The Hugo Time Machine -- 1960
    • Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
    • Fantasy and Science Fiction Magazine
    • Short Fiction nominees
    • Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
    • The Twilight Zone
  • The Outsider by Stephen King
  • Wind-up

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