Two Chairs Talking
Two ex-chairmen of the World SF Convention talk about books, movies, science fiction fandom, and much else.
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Episodes

Feb 15, 2022
Feb 15, 2022
1hr 27 min
Perry and David discuss their recent reading, in particular Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr and The Lost Daughter book and film.
News (07:19)
Locus Magazine recommended reading list (02:26)
Dublin Literary Award longlist (01:30)
Victorian Premier’s Literary Awards Winners (03:13)
What we've been reading (49:40)
David on Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr (03:46)
Perry's take on Cloud Cuckoo Land (08:23)
Fugitive Telemetry by Martha Wells (04:05)
Last Stand in Lychford by Paul Cornell (03:19)
All Our Shimmering Skies by Trent Dalton (03:21)
Flames by Robbie Arnott (07:49)
The Lost Daughter by Elena Ferrante (book) (04:02)
The Lost Daughter by Elena Ferrante (movie) (14:25)
Discussion with Lucy Sussex (27:05)
The Woman They Could Not Silence by Kate Moore (04:29)
I Hear the Mermaids Singing by Charmian Clift (03:01)
A Skinful of Shadows by Frances Hardinge (02:22)
Deeplight by Frances Hardinge (02:12)
Cuckoo Song by Frances Hardinge (00:52)
A Long Way from Verona by Jane Gardam (05:23)
Defiant Voices by Yvette Smith (01:34)
Vandemonians by Janet McCalman (02:41)
Enigma of China by Qiu Xiaolong (01:36)
Windup (00:39)
Photo by Magda Ehlers from Pexels

Jan 25, 2022
Jan 25, 2022
1hr 53 min
David and Perry talk about their favourite TV and movies they saw in 2021; and Perry talks at length with W. H. Chong about the new Dune movie.
News (04:19)
Philip K. Dick Award (01:34)
2022 Hugo Nominations open (01:20)
Vale Bill Wright (01:21)
Perry's Overview of TV and Movies 2021 (04:29)
Perry's Best Movies 2021 (24:24)
The Dig (05:04)
Emma (03:52)
Green Book (04:54)
The Father (05:16)
Dune Part 1 (01:48)
Nomadland (02:28)
Perry's Honourable Mentions in movies (05:52)
Echo in the Canyon (01:08)
Trial of the Chicago Seven (01:11)
The Power of the Dog (03:24)
David's movies 2021 (00:36)
Perry's Best TV 2021 (14:50)
Hemmingway (02:26)
Midnight Diner (03:31)
Succession (03:21)
Anthony Bourdain : Parts Unknown (01:52)
Upright (03:26)
Perry's Honourable Mentions in TV(03:49)
Mare of Easttown (01:26)
The Chair (01:17)
Bodyguard (01:04)
David's Best TV 2021 (08:39)
The Expanse (00:42)
The Umbrella Academy (00:51)
The Wrong Mans (02:09)
Get Back (Beatles) (03:00)
Hanna (01:43)
David's Honourable Mentions in TV (01:19)
Broadchurch (00:14)
Maigret (01:01)
Discussion with W. H. Chong on Dune (41:24)
Windup (01:04)
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Episode title: from a quote by Federico Fellini.

Jan 4, 2022
Jan 4, 2022
1hr 27 min
Perry and David talk about the best books they read during 2021 in a number of different categories.
Hugo Winners (03:33)
Site for Worldcon in 2023 (01:22)
Our best books of 2021 (01:17:48)
David's top SF of 2021 (02:54)
Perry's top SF of 2021 (05:35)
David's top fantasy of 2021 (04:35)
Perry's top fantasy of 2021 (05:10)
David's top crime of 2021 (02:19)
Perry's top crime of 2021 (09:56)
David's top literary of 2021 (03:26)
Perry's top literary of 2021 (06:47)
David's top novellas of 2021 (02:35)
Perry's top novellas of 2021 (04:16)
David's top children's lit of 2021 (04:32)
Perry's top collections of 2021 (06:55)
David's top non-fiction of 2021 (02:51)
Perry's top non-fiction of 2021 (07:04)
David's best overall of 2021 (01:41)
Perry's best overall of 2021 (03:33)
Windup (00:45)
Change to our schedule (00:42)
Illustration: generated by Wombo.art

Dec 7, 2021
Dec 7, 2021
1hr 7 min
David and Perry discuss who invented science fiction and go on to talk about their recent reading, including intriguing crime novels and literary award winners.
News (00:59)
Taking a break (02:54)
Who Invented Science Fiction? (05:34)
What we've been reading (53:02)
Laidlaw by William McIlvanney (13:04)
Utterly Dark and the Face of the Deep by Philip Reeve (06:05)
A Is for Alibi by Sue Grafton (07:18)
The Labyrinth by Amanda Lowrey (05:46)
Crossing the Lines by Sulari Gentill (07:37)
The Rain Heron by Robbie Arnott [warning: spoilers!](13:00)
Windup (02:23)
Photo by Altaf Shah from Pexels

Nov 23, 2021
Nov 23, 2021
1hr 22 min
Perry and David discuss recent news; David talks about the best book he's read all year; Perry reviews a magnificent book about whales; and interviews prominent fan Justin Ackroyd.
News (08:49)
Ditmar Awards (02:43)
Amazon Best Books of 2021 (02:01)
Announcement of interview on Fannish History (03:20)
Presentation on Standard Ebooks (00:38)
Letters of Comment (05:40)
From Ben Sims (00:32)
Audiobooks (04:24)
From Don Ashby (00:36)
What we've been reading (28:47)
She Who Became the Sun by Shelley Parker-Chan (04:59)
May Week Was in June by Clive James (07:06)
Bewilderment by Richard Powers (05:38)
Fathoms: the World in the Whale by Rebecca Giggs (10:46)
Where great whales come sailing by,Sail and sail, with unshut eye,Round the world for ever and eye.
-- Matthew Arnold, The Forsaken Merman
Illustration: Photo by Anna Shvets from Pexels

Nov 9, 2021
Nov 9, 2021
1hr 8 min
David and Perry discuss a number of recent award winners and take the Hugo Time Machine zooming back to the year of 1967
A. Bertram Chandler Award (01:48)
Booker Prize Winner (00:37)
Theodore Sturgeon Memorial Award (00:58)
World Fantasy Awards (02:02)
Readings Prize (00:38)
Hugo Voting closes (00:25)
Hugo Time Machine~1967 (01:00:58)
Short Stories (17:09)
“Mr. Jester” by Fred Saberhagen
“Delusion for a Dragon Slayer” by Harlan Ellison
“Rat Race” by Raymond F. Jones
“The Secret Place” by Richard McKenna (Won Nebula)
“Man in His Time” by Brian W. Aldiss
“Comes Now the Power” by Roger Zelazny
“Light of Other Days” by Bob Shaw
WINNER “Neutron Star” by Larry Niven
Novelettes (13:30)
“The Alchemist” by Charles L. Harness
“An Ornament to His Profession” by Charles L. Harness
“The Manor of Roses” by Thomas Burnett Swann
“Call Him Lord” by Gordon R. Dickson
“For a Breath I Tarry” by Roger Zelazny
“This Moment of the Storm” by Roger Zelazny
“Apology to Inky” by Robert M. Green, Jr.
“The Eskimo Invasion” by Hayden Howard
WINNER “The Last Castle” by Jack Vance
Other possible nominees (06:27)
Novels (16:47)
Day of the Minotaur by Thomas Burnett Swann
The Witches of Karres by James H. Schmitz
Too Many Magicians by Randall Garrett
Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Babel-17 by Samuel R. Delany
WINNER: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
Other possible nominees (01:26)
Other 1967 Hugo awards (01:23)
Windup (00:39)
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Oct 26, 2021
Oct 26, 2021
59 min
Perry and David celebrate St. Crispin's Day by discussing recent awards, what they've been reading, both non-fiction and fiction, and summarising their thoughts about this year's Hugo Award nominees.
News (04:36)
Ursula K. Le Guin prize (01:08)
Ditmar Awards (01:14)
Prime Minister's Literary Awards (02:03)
Critic vs Reviewer (02:46)
What we've been reading (41:05)
The Library by Stuart Kells (04:22)
Beeswing by Richard Thompson (07:28)
Dead Wake by Erik Larson (08:02)
A Cook's Tour by Anthony Bourdain (06:35)
The Kingdoms by Natasha Pulley (07:03)
Harrow the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir (07:10)
Summary of our 2021 Hugo reading (04:23)
Windup (01:33)
Illustration: production still from Henry V starring Kenneth Branagh.

Oct 12, 2021
Oct 12, 2021
1hr 3 min
David and Perry discuss -- and disagree about -- "The Bass Rock" and "Notes from the Burning Age" as well as two of the novels nominated for this year's Hugo Award.
Saint Wiborada (01:21)
Nobel Prize for Literature (07:32)
The Bass Rock by Evie Wyld (14:13)
Notes from the Burning Age by Claire North (11:18)
Hugo Nominated Novels (26:14)
Black Sun by Rebecca Roanhorse (13:00)
The City We Became by N. K. Jemisin (12:27)
Windup (01:30)
Photo by Stephen Cavenagh, ABC News

Sep 28, 2021
Sep 28, 2021
1hr 3 min
Perry and David talk about crime novels again, discussing books by Australian writers Garry Disher and Candice Fox, a classic by Dorothy L. Sayers, and others.
Booker Prize Shortlist (02:15)
US National Book Award (01:48)
Ordinary Grace by William Kent Krueger (08:04)
Hirchausen Series by Garry Disher (09:20)
The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club by Dorothy L. Sayers (10:47) Whose Body? by Dorothy L. Sayers (Free Standard Ebooks Edition)
Hades Trilogy by Candice Fox (09:14)
We Begin at the End by Chris Whittaker (12:11)
Nominative Determinism (01:47)
Science fictional crime (02:58)
Windup (01:55)
Photo by Jeremy Bishop from Pexels
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Sep 14, 2021
Sep 14, 2021
1hr 55 sec
David and Perry discuss recent news and go on to discuss their projects outside the podcast. They also talk about some nominees for this year's Hugo Best Novel award.
Reading in bed (02:46)
Recent news (06:09)
Farewell Judith Hanna (02:45)
Piranesi wins The Women's Prize (01:17) [Interview with Neil Gaiman]
Centenary of the birth of Stanisław Lem (01:09)
Seven hundred years since the death of Dante (00:56)
Our other interests (20:22)
The Alien Review (14:22)
Through the Biblioscope (05:32)
Best Novel nominees for Hugos 2021 (30:36)
Network Effect by Martha Wells (15:39)
The Relentless Moon by Mary Robinette Kowal (12:22)
Wind-up (00:34)
Illustration: painting by Johann Wilhelm Schirmer (1807-1863)
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